Okay, I feel really dumb for how I handled the whole Bush thing a few posts ago. I really don't hate the guy. I was pissed off at a particular Bush supporter I knew and needlessly flew off the handle at Bush.
However, I still stand by a lot of the things I said.
I'd also like to address Poster #1. (Whom I think I know who they are, and I'm sure they're not trying to hide their identity, but at the risk of my being wrong, I'll refrain from saying their name.
I still am not convinced on the Weapons of Mass Destruction thing. I haven't found what I would consider a single reliable source that says anything about weapons being found. Plus, as I said, everytime he's addressed about no weapons being found, Bush begrudginly concedes. The first debate, when Kerry specifically brought this up are a prime example of that. And thirdly, I decided to go to the source, and check a guy in the know. I asked my Uncle John, and he said he wasn't sure, but as far as he knew.... no, nothing was found. Of course, he's not the president, and he's not directly involved with the Iraqi War, so its possible he's wrong, I dunno.
Secondly... the arguement on North Korea didn't add up. North Korea wouldn't hesitate to bomb us, there's an entire ocean separating us, but there's only a line on a map separating them from China. China has the largest army in the world and is on good terms with the Koreans. I doubt they'd fear an attack from North Korea. I don't think the Korean's would dare attack China, they know they'd be crushed instantly. I still say the "Let China handle them" policy is no good.
Oh, and that whole Iraq is responsible for terrorism, JUST because they're anti-America... THAT was the weakest arguement I've ever heard. I don't care who said it. That doesn't work. Anti-Americanism breeds terrorism, eh? Well, better get rid of the entire European Union (except for Lapdog Town, I mean, England), most of Asia, Canada, Cuba, three or four countries in South America, the Middle-East, and half the population of America itself, they're all Terror-breeders!
And thirdly, basically, your arguement on Iraq becoming an unstable terror zone was "oh well, the Middle-East is known for this, big deal." I find that completely unnacceptable. If its okay for Iraq to degenerate into instability and chaos after we went through so much trouble to boot out the dictator and install a new government, then our going over there really WAS useless. I think the Iraqi's deserve as much time as they want for their elections. Forcing them to have elections by OUR deadlines isn't a good plan. And despite the fact that I said I don't hate Bush, I DO hate Donald Rumsfeld with a fiery vengeance. Alex, you seem fond of hurling insults at anyone that hopes for true peace in Iraq. Bush supporters seem fond of saying "Well, its stupid to hope for any real peace over there, that's just the way it is in the Middle-East!" Okay... so we didn't go over there to achieve peace for the Iraqi people? Then, when you bring up the WMD thing, people say "Well, that wasn't Bush's ONLY reason for invading!" Okay... so... if it wasn't for the weapons... and it wasn't for peace... what was it for, exactly?
Lastly, I have to admit that I completely agree with you on the stance of abortion. I think abortion is horrible and wrong. But, as bad as this is going to sound, its not really much of an issue for me, because I guarantee you no matter who is in charge, or what their stance on abortion is, it's legality is never going to change. I guarantee it.
That being said... election night. Tonight. Hope it doesn't end up like 2000.
Au revoir.
However, I still stand by a lot of the things I said.
I'd also like to address Poster #1. (Whom I think I know who they are, and I'm sure they're not trying to hide their identity, but at the risk of my being wrong, I'll refrain from saying their name.
I still am not convinced on the Weapons of Mass Destruction thing. I haven't found what I would consider a single reliable source that says anything about weapons being found. Plus, as I said, everytime he's addressed about no weapons being found, Bush begrudginly concedes. The first debate, when Kerry specifically brought this up are a prime example of that. And thirdly, I decided to go to the source, and check a guy in the know. I asked my Uncle John, and he said he wasn't sure, but as far as he knew.... no, nothing was found. Of course, he's not the president, and he's not directly involved with the Iraqi War, so its possible he's wrong, I dunno.
Secondly... the arguement on North Korea didn't add up. North Korea wouldn't hesitate to bomb us, there's an entire ocean separating us, but there's only a line on a map separating them from China. China has the largest army in the world and is on good terms with the Koreans. I doubt they'd fear an attack from North Korea. I don't think the Korean's would dare attack China, they know they'd be crushed instantly. I still say the "Let China handle them" policy is no good.
Oh, and that whole Iraq is responsible for terrorism, JUST because they're anti-America... THAT was the weakest arguement I've ever heard. I don't care who said it. That doesn't work. Anti-Americanism breeds terrorism, eh? Well, better get rid of the entire European Union (except for Lapdog Town, I mean, England), most of Asia, Canada, Cuba, three or four countries in South America, the Middle-East, and half the population of America itself, they're all Terror-breeders!
And thirdly, basically, your arguement on Iraq becoming an unstable terror zone was "oh well, the Middle-East is known for this, big deal." I find that completely unnacceptable. If its okay for Iraq to degenerate into instability and chaos after we went through so much trouble to boot out the dictator and install a new government, then our going over there really WAS useless. I think the Iraqi's deserve as much time as they want for their elections. Forcing them to have elections by OUR deadlines isn't a good plan. And despite the fact that I said I don't hate Bush, I DO hate Donald Rumsfeld with a fiery vengeance. Alex, you seem fond of hurling insults at anyone that hopes for true peace in Iraq. Bush supporters seem fond of saying "Well, its stupid to hope for any real peace over there, that's just the way it is in the Middle-East!" Okay... so we didn't go over there to achieve peace for the Iraqi people? Then, when you bring up the WMD thing, people say "Well, that wasn't Bush's ONLY reason for invading!" Okay... so... if it wasn't for the weapons... and it wasn't for peace... what was it for, exactly?
Lastly, I have to admit that I completely agree with you on the stance of abortion. I think abortion is horrible and wrong. But, as bad as this is going to sound, its not really much of an issue for me, because I guarantee you no matter who is in charge, or what their stance on abortion is, it's legality is never going to change. I guarantee it.
That being said... election night. Tonight. Hope it doesn't end up like 2000.
Au revoir.
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Hey, Tim, I know we disagree ona lot of things, but I want to take this opportunity that even though you believe a lot differently than me, I'm happy you researched, and even asked your uncle about this stuff. You did research, and you aren't just saying "Bush is Stupid" like so many other people.
I respect your opinion, because you respect mine (I get so tired of people treating me like I"m subhuman or telling me I'm a horrible, evil person for preferring Bush).
And isn't this what this country is all about? Being able to disagree and form our own opinions?
I already sent you an IM last night, but I don't know if you got it. In any case, I want you to know that I hope God strikes me down if I forget that other people are allowed to have opinions too, and I hope I always remember we're all created equal.
-Kate
Yes, I got your message last night, Kate, and I appreciated it.
So, it seems Bush is going to win re-election. And honestly, I'm not really all THAT bummed about it. I would've preferred Kerry. But, who knows? Maybe Bush can change my mind again.
Again, I apologize for the viciousness of my post a while ago. The more I look at it, the more ignorant I feel about it.
Nah, Alex, it wasn't you that pissed me off. This chick from my school whose in my Poli Sci class was who really irked me.
And the whole peace in Iraq thing wasn't your fault either. That's just like, one of the more important issues to me personally, that's why its the one I concentrate on most.
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